Art vs. Commerce

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I've been having a discussion with:iconlima-juliet: about Doctor Who: Fade Away by Paul Hanley :iconpaulhanley: and myself. She very kindly told me that she thought it was REAL art.

Which I honestly thought was a very kind thing to say -but personally, I don't really consider what I do 'real' art. I use a lot of photo reference (that I shoot myself, mind) I consider myself a commercial illustrator, animator and graphic designer. I've never really thought of myself as an artist per se.

Generally, the commercial work I do is competent and workman like. I do an awful lot of eLearning, web design, commercial illustration, advertising etc. None of which I consider 'art'. But it's lucrative and I have and odd skill set so it works out. It's also seen by a lot more people than any of my DA work. I just don't get credit very often.

My comic work has been mainly licensed properties (Buckaroo Banzai, Doctor Who, Discovery Channel, etc.) -so there's always a lot of photo reference involved because the licensors have that expectation of their freelancers. Also the turnaround on most of the work I do is very tight and using photo ref saves me a lot of time.

I consider people like Vincent Van Gogh, Pablo Picasso, Frida Kahlo (the list goes on) to be real artists. It just got me thinking about it and it's nice to be called an artist.
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Well, given so much of the stuff in national galleries was commissioned by someone paying money to an artist like you, and that artists met proffesional standards by using reference. I think there's no argument in it, you're an artist, and you're a proffesional one.

It is natural that if you work on something you're passionate about, it shows, and that's both a pleasing and saleable element. But if your taste doesn't coincide with the taste of the person you're selling to, then you need to modify what you're doing to meet their tastes, which can be just as suffocating to free-expression and passion as having being commissioned for a specific piece in the first place.

You've got naturally saleable tastes and passions, and I hope that lines up more with your work in the future, because I'd like to see your passion fly. But it's very rare to see passion fly -and- sell completely unaided.